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Drunk Wisconsin's avatar

I have a strong opinion strongly held. First, I am a man. Second, I am an immigrant to the US from a country that does not practice circumcision except for religious reasons.

The first thing to acknowledge in this conversation is that the decision is to typically do what the father had done to him, which makes complete sense. The second thing to acknowledge is that this is a cultural question, not a healthcare question. That's why the father is the determining factor. The reality is that a wide variety of countries—European, East Asian, South American—do not practice non-religious circumcision at the rate the US does. The US is an outlier in this regard. If the poorest European countries like Moldova and the richest European countries like Switzerland can avoid circumcision without having massively increased health issues, then this is not a question of what's good for the baby. It's a question of social expectations and norms. One thing that must be asked is why the US has such a strange outlying circumcision rate, and the history behind how that came about clearly shows that this is simply a strange remnant of peculiar historical circumstances. In a neighboring alternate universe where little else is different, the US has circumcision rates similar to other first world developed nations and sees no differences in health outcomes.

I am very happy to see that the tide is turning in American society. I know white American parents who chose to break the cycle, and I'm very proud of them. It's a tough thing to do. I do fear that this will become another element of class divide where the upper class chooses to not perform an optional invasive procedure for no good reason while the lower class continues to do it, but I hope I'm wrong, especially considering that Hispanics, who you mention as having lower rates, are also largely working class. The more it becomes normalized in American society, the easier it will be for American parents to ask "why?" and discover that their answer on whether or not to cut off a piece of their son's genitals is answered by arbitrary esthetic preferences and cultural inertia, which is simply not a good enough reason to cut off a piece of a baby's dick.

Mary Anne L. Graf's avatar

Happy to see little has changed in 35+ years. ;) Our sons are 36 and 32. I figured it was a body decision that should be theirs, and didn't circ them. One later got a circ he requested around age 10. He was quite proud of it, eager to show me as soon as he got home* (eek), never had much pain, and was over it in a couple days. The other, as far as I know, never got a circ. So they're apparently representative of the country...now. ;) And they're both still speaking to me, so we're good. *#whenmomisanurse

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